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Posted by Zilla_M20 on 09-15-2001 06:03 AM:
What’s The BEST Stationary Defence…??
In this topic i would like all people of all skills to share what the have found
to be a succesfull stationary defence e.g. HLT surrounded by Dt’s etc…
This is probably my weak area in Total Annihilation, so i need some real good
combo’s of defence.
Where there’s a will, there’s a way…
Where there’s a will, there’s a way…
Posted by DOGGY on 09-15-2001 06:59 AM:
there is no best stationary defense. Every defense depends on the situating.
Normally mass defenders do good, if u combine them with sams.
(defenders have a low armor (295) and will die 2 sams (650 armor) in small
numbers.
Defenders in high numbers have some big advantages:
- they have better range
- they can shoot over wreckage
- they have good firepower compared their metal cost (defender 79m ; samson
119m )
and defenders have a better reload time(2 secs) to the 2.5sec of a sam)
The only way (besides dts) 2 protect the low armored defenders is 2 place mobile
units in front of ur defenders.
They will block the incoming missiles of other sams/rockos with their much
higher armor, and will leave wrecks, missile units cant shoot over, but ur
defenders can.
Later in the game, u can protect special areas with dted hlts, or, if ur
opponent concentrates alot of defense structures (sometimes even plants) in
guardian range. A good placed guard wins the game sometimes. Ah yes, a guard
needs backup by a hlt or defenders. On some maps like sailaway and sometimes gow
a bb is a perfect defense (kills crusis/pels easily).
Posted by Zilla_M20 on 09-15-2001 07:12 AM:
"Defenders in high numbers have some big advantages:
- they have better range
- they can shoot over wreckage
- they have good firepower compared their metal cost (defender 79m ; samson
119m )
and defenders have a better reload time(2 secs) to the 2.5sec of a sam)"
Are you sure Defenders can shoot over wreckage??
Where there’s a will, there’s a way…
[This message has been edited by Zilla_M20 (edited September 15, 2001).]
Where there’s a will, there’s a way…
Posted by DOGGY on 09-15-2001 07:28 AM:
yes, i am!! the wrecks have 2 be just in front of ur defenders doh. If they are
far away, they cant shoot over them anymore. Same for dts: if u place dts just
in front of u defenders, ur defenders can shoot over them, if u build some ahead
of ur defenders, they wont be able 2 shoot over them ( that really sux if u
place ur DTed guardian in front of ur defenders, ur defenders will hit ur dts
and damage ur guardian
Posted by Archaic on 09-15-2001 08:13 AM:
DRAGONS TEETH!!!
a smart person who knows how to use them, can make them more useful then a big
bertha.
Trust me u guys dont got a clue what u can use them for
there one of the best units in the game.
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Posted by Zilla_M20 on 09-15-2001 08:26 AM:
I don’t think they are as useful as a Bertha,
Where there’s a will, there’s a way…
[This message has been edited by Zilla_M20 (edited September 15, 2001).]
Where there’s a will, there’s a way…
Posted by Archaic on 09-15-2001 08:51 AM:
I have won many many many games using dragons teeth, i will use them over a BB
anyday of the week. They cost nothing to build and easy to make and deploy. They
are a suberb item.
BB’s are just targets, waste of resources and time, a player wont allow a BB to
be build but he dont care about Dragons Teeth.
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Posted by LordBeek on 09-15-2001 09:02 AM:
So how can your dragons teeth damage my base?
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Posted by Archaic on 09-15-2001 09:54 AM:
Re-read the topic pls. As far as taking out ur base, well they dont do that, but
since when will a player let there base be taking out by a BB, anyone who does
is a complete moron and sould go back to starcrap.
98% of battles will happen on the lvl 2 tech tree, supported by lvl 1. LVL 3
tech units and buildings should not ever get the chance to be used effectivly.
No if’s and’s or But’s.
Dragons teeth do not have a single downside to them. When used properly they
still are 100% effective one way or another.
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Posted by DOGGY on 09-15-2001 10:03 AM:
archaic, whats ur zone name?? (just curious)
ah yes, send plz a tad 2 tadrs, in which u kill a tag with dts on gpp =P
Posted by Pat* on 09-15-2001 11:07 AM:
Actually Dragon teeth DO cost something. 8 metal each with 0 energy but its so
small you won’t notice it.
Posted by DS_Natas on 09-15-2001 11:10 AM:
Doggy using a bb to kill pelz is stupid. u can better use a roach bomb for
that!!
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Posted by DOGGY on 09-15-2001 12:26 PM:
natas, we are talking about defense!!! im mean, bb is usefull as an offensive
weapon and as defense fortification. If u are running in the situation that ur
forces might be overrun by 20 pels, then u should use the bb for it. U are right
doh, just building the bb for antipel sux, but a bb does great against crusis
(each crusi =900metal) and u have the possibility 2 attack structures (f.ex. on
gow)
Posted by WillyTheSquid on 09-15-2001 12:33 PM:
o_O Archaic, have you EVER played an online game?
Samsons, Flashes and Defenders dominate the game.
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Posted by PeterC on 09-15-2001 01:32 PM:
Of course he hasn’t. He is a total newbie.
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Posted by Archaic on 09-15-2001 01:53 PM:
Aw damn u found me out!
Thats right everyone, i’m a total newbie. Never played online…Hell i never
even played TA before, i was looking for porn and i found this so i just decided
to have some fun…
First of all, i can post screenshots of what a defense line should look like.
2nd Any good game will not allow EMG or core eqv etc. To this date i have yet to
have someone crack my defense line cause of one unit and one unit only DT’s!
I will agree defenders are good, but there too lightly armoured when face with
hvy firepower. Hence the DT’s will filter most inc shots. Samsons dont really
bother me cause i usally just have my commander d-gun a rush that way i can save
my units for my own rush, now that the dumb newbie is totally defenseless. There
aint no rush that will kill a commander if ur smart. Simply have a commander
behind some DT’s pull around the corner and do some ground d-gun shots. Rush is
over,on with ur attack. Another thing to do is put LLT’s around defenders for
air attacks, missiles drop from underneath a plane then go to there target but
if something is inthere path at the same lvl they will hit that instead, this
also include the wreckage.
A rush is not ment to kill ur commander, its got 2 purposes.
#1 To disrupt ur playing, by taking u away from ur base and putting ur valuble
time into base defense, or by #2 Taking out ur early resource structers, once
again taking ur time away from ur base to repel the attackers. BTW this is the
time ur in nanostall cause u lost ur energy makers.
Energy resource buildings are always #1!!! in target lists for me always
Well next to the lvl 3 tech tree
Peter C STFU and go back to playing the AI, he might teach u a thing or too.
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